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11/4/2004 11:21:44 AM |
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That would be cool.
You can always create a group called "Default View" which contains only individuals, and that way when you go to your friends list it's all the ones you've put into that group and no one else. That's what I do when some of the communities get to be overwhelming.
Oooh, good idea, I might try that... thanks!
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11/4/2004 11:58:37 AM |
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From the FAQ, in case it doesn't work at first or something:
FILTERING YOUR FRIENDS PAGE
You can use custom friends groups to view your Friends page with only entries from members of a specific group or groups. From http://www.livejournal.com/friends/filter.bml you can select one or more groups to view entries from. You can also go directly to a filtered version of your Friends page by appending the group's name to the end of your Friends page URL. For example, if your username was "exampleusername" and you had a friends group called "group1", you could visit http://www.livejournal.com/users/exampleusername/friends/group1 to see only entries from members of "group1".
If you create a custom friends group named "Default View", visiting your standard Friends page will display only entries from members of the "Default View" group. To see entries from all of your friends, you would need to visit http://www.livejournal.com/users/exampleusername/friends/?filter=0.
If you have marked a friends group as public, anyone may view your filtered Friends page by viewing the URL with the group name appended. If the group is private, other users will receive an error message when visiting the filtered URL. Similarly, if your "Default View" group is public, then all visitors to your Friends page will see only entries from members of that group. If the "Default View" group is private, other users will see a regular Friends page with entries from all of your friends.
It worked it worked it worked!!! Thanks. :)
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11/4/2004 11:54:12 AM |
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You could create two groups, one for communities and one for people, and never read your default friends list.
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11/4/2004 1:12:15 PM |
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You can do that with the Semagic LJ client. I do it if I haven't read my list for a while and want to filter out some of the busier communities. Just set-up different groups, then select "read all entries in this group". It's easier than I made it sound! :D
Remember me? Formerly driftwood, you gave me Tucker?
Yeah, how's it going?
Actually, reason why I dropped by was because I, as a Christian for a while, am now seriously considering cnverting to Judaism, and saw you ran the jbcs community. Small world, innit?
Anyway, I am joining up there now, but also wanted to say hi to you and see how you were and all that jazz. Take care and G-d bless.
Hi Gina.
I'm sorry, but JBCs isn't a community for messianic christians - which I assume, based on your other community choices, you are. JBCs is a community for people to have converted or plan to convert to Judaism because they genuinely believe in Jewish principles and Jewish faith... It is NOT for christians who think that it's cute to own a menorah, or worse, christians who want to SAVE us. Nobody here needs to be saved, but thanks anyway.
Have a good day.
You've completely misunderstood my intentions. I am seriously considering converting to Judaism. I thought that was the point of your community?
In no way did I try to prostelyze, or anything of the sort. I onlypointed out my personal struggle and why I believe Judiasm is truth and Christianity is a pagan lie.
In no way was I considering Messianic judaism, and I must admitt, your terse and harsh reply and rejection really hurts. My inquiries are sincere. I have many Messianic Jewish friends, and it is them, along with my Jewish boyfriend, that have helped me come to a sincere quest for truth, via Scriptural Judaism.
This is not somethign I have voiced very much on my journal, as I am fearing rejection. the fact that I was rejected by you and your community has not helped matters at all. I am not out to "save" anyone, and if you would have read my post more fully, you would have seen that. Your questioning of my sincerity really hurts and is unwarranted.
While I hope you reconsider, I must tell you that you really ought to be more careful when you say things to people. I am offended beyond words. This is not a good introduction to Judaism and how people sincerely interested in conversion, despite their past religious affiliations, will be treated.
I think YOU have misunderstood... there are no messianic Jews. Those people are called christians.
From your community list:
_peaceinchrist, adoptedbychrist, christian_cafe, christianhippie, christianity, christianleft, indiexiankids, jesusliberation, ljchristians, messianic_jews, xian_friends
That's an awful lotta jesus for someone who professes to believe that christianity is a pagan lie, ya know?
And did you see that I have been a Christian for quite a while? Naturally, my community and friends list reflects that. I didn't hide the fact that I am a Christian that has slowly come to the realization that my faith is a lie and that I have come to understand the faith in G-d as One and love and reverence for His Torah is salvation.
I understand your suspicions, but your hostility was uncalled for. I am sincere, but if you do not believe me, that's fine. I won't beg to join your community. I was 100% honest in my post, and was sincerely looking for help, discussion, and encouragement. I guess I have to look elsewhere...
Sorry.
Gina. You recently updated your userinfo. If your interest in Judaism was so sincere, and your faith in christianity so shattered, why not take the time to remove the fish and other xian trappings? Why not take five minutes to leave the xian communities, if you felt so strongly? But you didn't, and I suspect you won't.
In case you hadn't noticed, America is Jesus-Land, from Curves right down to Chick-Fil-A. I'm sure you can find a place more suited to your beliefs.
Yes, I did. I have only just today began to pursue things like Jewish communities and the like. As I said, this is all new. your comments made me realize that perhaps it is easy to see me as a "missionary", so I decided to start removing things that are no longer relevent to me.
I can't really believe I have been trated in scuh a way. I understand what you are saying, but this is something I am dealing with right now. You'll have to excuse me if I haven't "de-Christianized" myself fast enough.
Geeze. I mean, really Renee. This is really got me upset. Why the hostility? And yes, I know America is "Jesus Land". You have no idea how many fights I have gotten into with my Christian "friends" over Torah observance and my rejection of the Trinity. You have no idea how much I have been struggling with this, how many insults I have recieved over this, how many fights, how many people have told I am going to go to hell.
I've been quiet about it because, admittididly, I have not been stong enought o say "to hell with what people think". until now, that is. I fought, then I withdrew, further in my studies, and I have finally decided to be proactive.
I don't know if you came from a strong religious background when you began to consider conversion. If you did, maybe you know what it's life, to be knee deep in something, and when you decide to pull yourself out in search of truth, the people that were holding you down tell you to stay there or suffer for eternity.
So yes, the process has been slow, and my journal info has not reflected this, but I am working on it, slowly but surely. You say I can find a place that better suits my beliefs - that's funny, I have been rejected a whoel hell of a lot the last few days. I hope judiasm1 is more accepting, and I sincerely hope next time, instead of jumping th gun, you ask questions first. I didn't think I appeared anything less then what I was: sincere. I mean, you knew me (never did find out why you removed me from your friends list, but I digress). Did I appear to be a liar to you? Really, now my character has, in essence, been attacked, and I want to know.
Your journal IS still filled with christian images. You still have a banner for read your [xian] bible.com. You're STILL a member of messianic_jews, as well as several other xian communities. You still have user icons like "Got Jesus?", "Yeshua In Hebrew", "Servant Of Yeshua", "Know Jesus", and "WWJD?". You list your boyfriend as your "second favorite Jew"... gee, who is your first?
Then there is your website, which lists your beliefs as a christian, complete with the jesus fish AND the magen david, and your fine collection of messianic links.
And yes, I understand not updating your user info or website every day - though you made changes several times to yours yesterday and still couldn't seem to get rid of that pesky messianic community - but if you were truly as disenfranchised with xianity as you claim, I would think you'd want to rid yourself of the trappings. This is a bit different than having a leftover Alanis Morrisette community on your list because you used to like that one album.
By the way, if you think *I'm* questioning your sincerity, this is nothing compared to what a rabbi will do to ANY potential convert. Tell that same rabbi that three months ago you were a born again christian and then you dabbled with the messianic "Jews", and see how seriously he takes you. Coming into the Jewish converts community with the user info that you have, and using phrases like "I came to Christ" are akin to wearing a WWJD? tee-shirt to your first interview with a rabbi.
And to be honest, I dropped you from my friends list because of the christianity. I see enough of that in real life; I don't need to see it online, too.
I'm sorry everything is not moving along quickly enough for you, but you got damn nerve questioning my sincerity. You are NOT a rabbi, and you could have disuaded me to convert to high heaven, but you didn't even give me a damn chance. I expect this from a rabbi, but not from a JBC who is SUPPOSED to be helping others along who are thinking of or decided on converting.
So, whatever. I'm nowhere NEAR done updating my user info, icons, or my website. I get into fights with Christians constently, and now, with Jews. Thanks a lot for nothing. I'll find somwhere else to go without people piling on the hate before I even get a word in. As for the Bible link in my info, until I find one that quote Tenakh only, it stays. And the messianic community that has your panties in such a bunch is gone. I'm sorry, I have a life that doesn't involve updating my user info all the time - it's a process, and again, I have other things on my plate.
I still maintain, before I was BANNED, that you have something personal against me, given my past. So if you let things like that get in the way of people who are seeking, that's your hang up. A pile of bricks doesn't need to hit me on the head, I get it.
You've sufficiently disgusted me and disuaded me from joining your community. It's what you wanted, right? Again, thanks for nothing. Sorry to have wasted your time.
Well, I'm not the one that banned you, but that's beside the point.
No, I'm not a rabbi. I am, however, one of the moderators of a community that attracts a lot of inappropriate posters, both of the neo-nazi and the missionary sorts. That gives me (and the other mod) the right, as well as an obligation to the community, to screen all posts and members, and "weed out" the ones that could prove problematic.
Try to look at it from our point of view. You're into the "pro-life" movement, correct? Well if you ran a "pro-life" community, and someone joined who claimed they'd had a couple of abortions in the recent past, but they'd changed their mind and now they're pro-life, but they still had a bunch of "my uterus, my choice" type banners and listed several pro-choice communities in their info... would you HONESTLY not feel a bit hesitant about letting them in?
Of course I would. However, and I have done this in the past in my other communities to some extent, I'd try to open up a dialogue with that person, which you did not do. You didn't ask me anything, you didn't allow my post, and left this reply, which you must admitt, cast me in a pretty negative light.
All I am saying is that, in the future, maybe instead of slamming the door like that, you could try talking to the person and seeing how things go from there. I never said your caution was not legitimate, but your way of handling it upset me and, in my humble opinion, was just kinda mean. Go back and read it - wasn't it?
"We don't need to be saved, but thanks anyway" and "it's NOT for christians who think owning a menorah is cute" are two good examples.
A bit presumptious, I think. Had we discussed it a bit, and you voiced your concerns in a constructive way "ie: your membership over at messianic_jews is a problem, here's why), it could have avoided a whole lot of drama. That's all I am saying here. I wasn't given a chance.
Up until recently, I kinda did. I've been doing a lot of praying and reading - for the first time in my life, just in I'd say the last week, I've done what I never did before: I have read the other side.
Why did Jews not accept him as their Messiah, minus the handful who became his apostles and disciples. I let go of his supposid deity a long time ago, and have been Torah observant for some time, but the fear of God (pun not intended) to deny him as Messiah is hard to shake.
I don't know what background you came from, but if it was Christian, you'd know that the faith comes largely from fear of eternal damnation. In fact, I became a christian ("Born again") after watching someone on the book of Revelation and the "end times". In my heart, I kinda knew he wasn't Messiah, but I spent a lot of reading and studying on why Jews did not believe he was Messiah, and Christians did.
What I've found was disturbing. I let go of Jesus as Messiah, and I no longer am afraid. When I did that, well, that's when I came here. I guess I should have taken some time before I jumped head first. If I added you to my friends list, you could see how many people are now "praying for my soul". I think I need to clean my friends list. As a matter of fact...
Okay, just so you know I have nothing to hide, I suppose. For the time being, I added you to my friends list. Here is my second most recent post, when I declared that I am no longer a Christian... the last one in particular is disturbing. I've gotten a lot of IM's on the subject from these people, trying to "save me" or "bring me back". As time goes on, I guess I'll feel more open.
You know what bothered me most about that post you linked to? The replies all told me I sounded like a Muslim. That's what made me start thinking about my beliefs, and how they seem to be so much of a mish-mash. Man, I've just learned so much. It hurts to realize everything I know is a lie, and it's not always easy to admit it: my post in your community was my first step, I guess, but I should have taken my time and waited, I could have saved some problems. I'm sorry.
Anyway, that's the truth, take from it what you will. And like I said, I let you access my journal, I've nothing to hide. If you really are that suspicious and need to investigate me, it's all there, in all it's "glory".
Well, thank you for letting me see your journal... it was kind of disconcerting to wonder if there was more to it that we weren't seeing.
I was never a christian, and with the exception of a few random relatives, I was never really exposed to it, either. The only times in my life that I was in a church (except as part of going to catholic school), were when somebody died. So I do realise that I can't understand what it's like to try to "escape" the faith. Even with the nuns trying to beat it into me, I was never able to accept that Jesus was anything more than *maybe* a charasmatic guy. I didn't believe in Santa Claus either... even as a kid I was more into questioning than believing. ;)
As for the muslim thing, I did notice that came up a lot, but I honestly know NOTHING about Islam one way or the other, to know whether there was anything to what they said.
Anyway. If you are sincerely interested in Judaism, I will talk to the other mod, and if it's okay with her, you can post to the community. I will warn you though, Jesus is not an acceptable topic there, and anything that smells even vaugely messianic will be deleted. Fair enough?
Whoops. I replied to this already but under my sister's LJ name. My computer has been running like crap, and tonight, the monitor blew out, so I am on her laptop. Didn't realize she was logged in. Sorry about that. Here's what I said:
I must say, reading this really made me feel pretty good. I thank you for giving me another chance, so to speak. I don't like conflict, glad this seems to have turned out all right. And don't worry, no Jesus talk from me, I can assure you.
The thing about Islam, as I understand it, is that they believe he was a prophet, but not G-d, and not greater then Muhammed (sp). I had to read big chunks of the Koran for a college class though, and I will have to respectfully decline their observations.
I was raised Catholic. I mean, we didn't go to Catholic school, thankfully, but my mother had the May Procession every year where we'd crown the "Blessed Mother" and say the "rosaries" about 100 times. I try to tell her now that that is very much so idol worship - at least it convinced her to stop doing it.
Anyway, I do appreciate it. My journal has been pretty much friends only since an ex-boyfriend, who is also on LJ, was harrassing me, maybe you recall?
PS - I added you back, too... you know, just so you can read about all the exciting things I do. /rolls eyes
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11/24/2004 8:39:43 PM |
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Here is a site for you then - Hebrew-English Bible. This English translation, while not Orthodox, is pretty good, and the difference are rather minor.
Best of luck in your search for Light. Regarding being "pro-Life", we recently had an interesting discussion on Jewish medical ethics, over in , yet another weird and Jewish community on LJ. You can ask me questions in my LJ, if you wish...
[ purple_stardust: This is what happens, when you write me a comment. I check-out your LJ . ;-) ]
By the way, you're right. I am withdrawing from those communities now. I never read or contributed to them anyway. Sorry I didn't do it sooner, maybe you would have actually believed me.
Just because you've come to believe that christianity is a pagan lie in no way implies Judaism is the "right faith" for you (if there can be such a thing). What is it about Judaism that attracts you?
I've held fast to the Tenakh being the word of G-d. I have always believed in Him, that's never been an issue, and in my studies as a Christian, I found myself focusing more and more on the "Old testament". I've come to believe that the Laws of Moses and the Prophets are what He expects of us, and is the ultimate expression of my love for Him - the desire to obey His commandments.
The other cultural stuff is fascinating too, of course. But I will not base my faith on just enjoying it's cultural aspects. So to answer your question, my belief in the G-d of Israel and wanting to seve Him as instructed in His Torah.
Best of luck to you. From what I'm told, it's not easy. Are you considering converting Orthodox? Reform?
Not entirely sure. Probably Orthodox, just because, as I understand it, if you convert to any of the others, Orthodox Rabbi's do not consider you or your children Jewish.
That's why I had joined jbcs, to learn more about it and ask questions, but, well...
Thanks for the well wishes, though.
is also a community for potential converts; they are geared more toward Orthodox and Conservative conversions and practices.
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