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i love the way you did the links like fishies. so cool about your nano-cube. you must be so psyched.
I *am* excited! I've wanted a saltwater tank for about ten years, I can't believe I'm finally gonna try it! =D
I haven't seen the book in most stores. I think I got mine through B&N. Patience is a virtue. You will find with saltwater tanks that impatience is the single *biggest* cause of failure. This is me speaking from experience. If you did want to get a jump start, you could always start buying some live rock and curing it in rubbermaid bins. How are you planning on getting the live rock and/or sand for your tank? It's cheaper to mail order it, but the best places usually offer more rock than you'll need (ie..30 pounds or so).
If you lived closer, I'd go in on an order with you.
I'd really be happy just getting it started a this point, since it takes so long to cycle. Also, there is less chance of the cats knocking it on the floor, if it's filled with heavy water and rocks. And speaking of rocks, yeah, I noticed the huge quantities the online folks sell it in. I *wish* I had a tank that needed 44 (or more!) pounds of live rock. I found Figi at my LFS for $5 per pound - do you think Figi will be okay?
Okay, so I have the tank now. What do I do first, buy the salt mix and distilled water (and the salt meter thingie)? If I go ahead and buy the live rock now, can I cure it in the tank, or should that be separate? Should I put live sand in now, or can that wait?
Help?
I would get the water (RO from your pet store is best) and salt now. Get a floating hydrometer, NOT one of those plastic boxes. You should be able to get a floating hydrometer/thermometer combo for about $5 at Petco type places.
Put the water in and then add the salt per the instructions. Turn on all the equipment and let it settle for a day. This will get the temp right and allow the salt to dissolve. Make sure the SG is around 1.023, if you want corals. If not, you can hang around 1.018-1.020.
Tomorrow, I'd get some sand. Go for aragonite sand. Petco sells 'live sand' in a bag. It's not really that 'live', but for a tank your size, it should be more than enough. You'll want less than an inch of sand (10lbs should work). Add that to your tank (after rinsing it if you're not getting the live sand) and let it settle. It'll be dusty for a day or so.
Once the dust settles (probably over the weekend), you can add Live Rock. Fiji Live Rock is fine. You'll want about 15 pounds total. You can get 5-7 pounds of Live Rock and some base rock, if costs are tight. The base rock will be 'cultured' by the live rock over time.
I wouldn't add *any* fish for at least 3-4 weeks. The Live Rock will need to settle (even with a short transport things will die off). Start testing your tank 3-4 days after you add the Live Rock. Test first for Ammonia and Nitrite. When you see the Ammonia crash (it'll go up first, then down), start testing for Nitrite and Nitrate. When the Nitrite crashes, wait 3 - 4 days and add your first coral or fish. I'd add a mushroom coral first and QT a clown while that's settling in, but that's me.
HTH.
Got it, thanks. No wait! The floating hydrometer - is that the same thing as a specific gravirty meter? Because that's what I had written down that I needed to measure the amount of salt in the water. I still need to buy the test kits too, even though I don't plan to add anything for a month or so, unless maybe a snail. What is the deal with "curing" the rock? Does it (or can it) cure while the water is cycling?
Thanks so much for your help in this. I'm sorry to keep bugging you with questions, but you're the only person I know (well, kinda) who actually has a saltwater tank. Ten years ago, when I actually socialised, I knew people who did, but I didn't keep in touch with any of them. *sigh*
Yes, the floating hydrometer measures specific gravity and temperature at the same time. It's more accurate than the swinging arm boxes.
Yes, you still need the test kits. You need to know that the water is safe before you add any lifeforms and the only way to do so is to chart the Nitrification Cycle (thus 'cycling').
Curing Live Rock is the process of making sure all the dead/dying stuff has come off the rock. It's not such a big deal if you get pre-cured rock locally, as it will have already been in your dealer's tank (I would imagine). If you mail order rock, it comes wrapped in newspaper and full of dead/dying stuff. If you were to add it directly to the tank, TONS of ammonia would be released.
You actually *want* to put your live rock into your tank. That's what will start the cycle. The lifeforms on the live rock will release ammonia (more so if some of them die), which will feed bacteria to convert ammonia to nitrite. The nitrite will feed the bacteria to convert nitrite to nitrate. Nitrate is much less toxic than ammonia or nitrite. So, yes, put the live rock in once you've got the salt and sand situated.
Plus, watching all the neat stuff on the live rock will give you something to do for the next month. We had fun seeing all the neat things come out of hiding. Good Luck! I want pictures!
Ahhh... okay. Yeah, it will be quite a while befoore I have any real lifeforms, but when I do, I can assure you that you'll be seeing LOTS of pictures. You know how I am. I actually took a picture of the stand - no tank yet, just my daughter's plastic toy Nemo - but decided even I wasn't THAT much of a dork to post it. =)
I am interested in the live rock process, but after reading a bit about mantis shrimp (thumbsplitters!), I'm kinda nervous, too.
If you are getting your live rock from an LFS, see if you can get it from a tank that has fish in it. That's what we did. It drastically reduces the likelihood of getting a mantis. Even if the tank doesn't have fish, you're much less likely to get a mantis in live rock from an LFS, as long as they've had it curing for a bit.
Plus, that month with no fish in the tank will give you plenty of time to see one. In a 12g, pulling one of those out would be much easier.
Ohhhhh... that's a good point, thanks!
If you are getting your live rock from an LFS, see if you can get it from a tank that has fish in it. That's what we did. It drastically reduces the likelihood of getting a mantis. Even if the tank doesn't have fish, you're much less likely to get a mantis in live rock from an LFS, as long as they've had it curing for a bit.
Plus, that month with no fish in the tank will give you plenty of time to see one. In a 12g, pulling one of those out would be much easier.
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1/22/2004 1:40:01 PM |
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You can search Border's inventory before showing up, and you can even put the book on hold. First, you have to choose your closest Borders:
http://www.bordersstores.com/search/search.jsp
That is SO COOL, thank you!!! And they have it, even! =D
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artmomz
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1/22/2004 3:12:37 PM |
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I thought you might enjoy it. It serves my gotta-have-it-now needs well.
Oh yes, I know those needs well. =)
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